Czy jakiś INTP znalazł może sposób na ESFJ?
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myślisz, że to także był INTP ?
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Which personality types clash with INTP?
The most likely challenging for you to get along with individuals from the SF group composed of ESFJ, ISFJ, ESFP, and ISFP types. This is because the people in this group are dominated by mental functions of consciousness that are totally opposite to your own.
ESFJs: They’re our literal opposite and after ESTJs have the next highest potential for being outright repulsive to us. Typically I see ESFJs and INTPs have a mutual respect as they recognize the gifts of the other type. They just tend to do it from a distance because there’s nothing in common between the two types. Problems start when an ESFJ goes into a hyper-emotional state and overwhelms the INTP. This can cause explosive conflicts. There’s also the potential for ESFJs to get busybody-ish and intrusive, and that will quickly annoy the hell out of an INTP.
ISFJs: They’re the least intellectually inclined of all the types. They’re kind people and don’t necessarily create hostility in us…they just bore the hell out of us. I’ve often taken to provoking ISFJs in my life just to create something interesting to do while I’m in their company.
Fi-primaries, especially INFPs: Typically problems here only arise due to low maturity levels. Immature Fi-users can come across as folks that just absolutely refuse to look at reality as it is. Immature INTPs will ruthlessly tear apart the hyper-sensitive Fi users. INFPs can be especially annoying to an INTP because they’re so similar to us, but they use their gifted minds for what seems like intolerably irrational causes.
ENTJs: For many of the same reasons as ESTJs. However, it can be a hit or miss here. ENTJs are far more likely to recognize the extreme value an INTP’s mind can bring, and when they do, and use their gifts to extract that value, it becomes a smash hit of a friendship, partnership, or even romance.
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INTP Anger: INTP Dealing with Rage Anger is a very normal emotion, something everyone experiences in their lives. For some people this is something which happens more frequently, for others it seems easier to avoid becoming angry over most things. The issue with experiencing anger is that some...
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All SJ types!!!
It's not that I can't get along with them, I’m flexable, and can be accepting of almost anyone, and prefer harmony. And some SJ's I even respect. But NONE of them, that I've ever met, liked or wanted anything to do with me (an INTP).
They just plain do not like me right from the start! Even before they've ever met me they have an attitude. It's like they can smell us. In fact this is what prompted me to learn about Typology in the first place. And before I ever knew anything about personality types, I knew how to recognize SJ's by this automatic attitude towards me. I wanted to know why this type seemed to just plain have it out for me, before they even ever knew me.
. . .also, ENTJ's don't seem to like me very well either! I get the feeling I'm a threat to them somehow, but haven't a clue why. You would think we had enough in common to get along, but not so in my experience.
I think it's the J/P dichotomy. INTPs are open minded, don't care about traditions, or about following the rules, resist being controlled, and don't play the social games. There are so very few of us to begin with, I think most SJ's confuse us with SP types, but just see us as some broken or eccentric version of one, that aren't even very good opportunists, like the SP's. ?
SPs and NTs are both rule breakers. But I think we break rules for two very different reasons. SPs break rules to benefit themselves, or to see what they can get away with. But NTs mostly break rules to challenge them, or to change things, or prove a point of some kind. But to SJ's this doesn't matter. . . A rule breaker is a rule breaker, and that's all they see.
Especially when it's the SJs who make and enforce most of the rules!
I
Hate
ESFJ's.
Many people in my family and some other acquaintances are ESFJ's and I despise them.
They're so narrow-minded, judgemental, and generally from what I've seen they tend to be "slow" on the intellectual side.
They bring cringe-worthing feelings into an argument (f*ck your feelings for all I care). They need to become more aware of what's going on, than drawing early judgements on what is happening.
Goddamn lovey-dovey feelers.
Just taking a guess but people might have trouble understanding a complete opposite. An INTP can appreciate anyone’s strengths, but won't build a strong bond to an opposite like ESFJ? We’re all adults and mature enough to understand everyone has their own unique personality but in this case the INTP wouldn’t get why someone would always want to do what society expects them to and why they would enjoy that. An INTP searches to stand out and change the world by challenging the rules while another person seeks to help the world by following them how they are told. An INTP won't understand that and want to think outside the box, in order to find a beneficial contribution. An INTP distrusts the overall “take” on society and see’s this as a way to control people. The ESFJ see’s this as a shortcoming but an INTP sees this thought process as a responsibility. Whats worse is a non T type will not be able to discuss this idea in a rational objective way - and without knowing why will baffle and frustrate an INTP. That being said, if an INTP ever winds up in a hospital and needs help, the ESFJ will most likely be the nurse there standing there to help, so like I said, to each his own.
I can't stand ESFPs and ESFJs. Actually, I don't get along with most Observant people, I usually find them too superficial - and I can assure you that they don't like me back. I guess it's because I focus too much on my own mind and on fictional things, which they just can't understand, since they apparently can only focus on their surroundings, on what they can see or hear.
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Why would anyone like INTPs? Um, maybe because they are adorable? I personally think they are the cutest of the MBTI types, very kind, very smart, often unpredictable, sometimes spacey, always fun to be around. Sure a bit distant and in their heads, even a bit stiff sometimes, but in a affable, charming way. INTPs are just who they are, and for those who like what they have to offer, it’s just never boring (how could it be?)
I am an INTJ married to an INTP, and have always had INTP friends (there were a lot of you in grad school). Here are the reasons I personally like INTPs:
The least judgmental: I don’t know how else to put it, but there is a mildness to some INTPs (not all), an acceptance of people's foibles behind the absent-minded prickliness. INTPs are some of the the least judgemental people I know. Irrational behaviour that annoys me to no end is easily shrugged off by INTPs, who are similarly rational but better able to accept the crazy of others. INTPs always (mildly) question my judgements in eye-opening ways, which I appreciate.
Your big brains, and the meandering paths you take in your heads. The going backwards (sideways, in reverse, whatever) to go forwards approach, is always a delight and a source of hilarity for me. The thought bubble in my head is always, “Okaaay, where are we going with this, and OMG when are we going to get there?” Lol. There’s no mental detour too remote for an INTP, no avenue too out there. Hence the squidgy, meandering paths you take us on. This is (almost) always a joy for an INTJ.
You can count on INTPs. They may seem scattered but they are serious and reliable people when push comes to shove, extremely capable adults who can be counted on to have your back.
INTPs also have the ability to function extremely well in chaos, often much more efficiently than in normal life. INTJs are usually very strategic, but when Plan A then B and C all fail, an INTP can step in and just wing it. And somehow do a beautiful job maneuvering through the chaos. Suddenly you see a totally different side to them, all of a sudden brutally efficient, laser focused. Which is a real switcheroo from their normally scattered, more intellectual energy.
They are extremely loyal, and can stay with people through thick or thin, although they will also door slam you if you push them far enough. But you have to do a lot of harm before an INTP will do that to you, because they are really very forgiving, way more than I think is good but who am I to judge. I personally would have cut ties with certain people years (decades) before the INTPs I know did. Once they cut ties though, it’s over. Forever.
Very egalitarian & independent and can take care of themselves, both materially and emotionally, which some people don’t like but I love. They are not needy at all, and they really don’t ask for much, but are willing to pitch in whenever. What more could you ask for? They are not high maintenance people.
INTPs are hilarious. They’re either cracking inappropriate jokes, or compulsively blurting out things that other people are thinking but afraid to say. Being with an INTP can be like having a 4-year-old at an adult party, obliviously pointing out everything the adults are hypocritically trying to hide. Which for an INTJ is precious, precious entertainment, the only time a party is actually fun.
Highly introverted, dislikes being around more than 1 or 2 people at a time, hates parties and meeting new people. Which is probably going to be an issue with an extrovert but not so with an introvert. Sign me up for the solitary, it’s all good
INTJ here, married to an INTP. Here’s what I observe about him/your tribe:
- Non-traditional, open-minded, indifferent to conformity. Many of you seem to be drawn to outcasts and marginal characters, like spies and mad scientists and pirates. And underdogs.
- Sarcastic, highly inappropriate humour, the blacker the better. There’s no such thing as “too soon.” Love love how hilariously mean you can be.
- Super chill, at least compared to INTJs, very cuddly if a bit absent sometimes
- Highly sensitive to the environment, especially other people’s negative emotions (at least compared to an INTJ who can be insensitive at the best of times)
- Under stress, you retreat into a special safe space in your heads. And nobody but nobody can follow you there. I surmise it to be filled with things like Egyptian catacombs, a time machine or two, definitely something labyrinthine, and at least one new and intricately developed world.
- Predisposition to melancholy, loves depressing music the way INTJs love depressing philosophy
- Doesn’t play games, is direct when asked (but can be evasive and circumspect if not asked), can take the truth straight up, like a boss. Mad respect.
- Extremely disorganized, and any attempts at organization get abandoned almost as soon as they’re conceived. It’s a Sisyphean nightmare. Please, just give up already. You do you.
- Can be hilariously indifferent to feelings sometimes (they look like they care, and sometimes they do, but often they really don’t)
- Takes procrastinating to unheard-of heights, it’s almost breathtaking
- As a result of said procrastinating (and combined with a tendency to be ADD), INTPs can literally take decades to finish a project, or complete a task. And no amount of carrots, sticks, nagging, indifference, persuasion or trickery can help the process along. I recommend that you avert your eyes, and slowly walk away. Let it be.
- INTPs strive for a ridiculous degree of completion, in very counter-productive ways. It can be seriously difficult for certain INTPs to, for e.g., just “tidy and sweep” because as soon as you start tidying, you basically need to clean and sanitize the entire place from top to bottom, moving furniture, the whole bit. The task becomes so huge that you immediately abandon it.
- Utterly unmotivated by money or status, or even by practical concerns, like oh, having a roof over your head, that kind of thing. INTPs seem to be motivated by what, from the outside, looks like a series of whims generated by your ADD brains. But I know it makes sense in some grand and intricate way, and yes I’m still listening.
- Great listeners, warm and affectionate at home, like overgrown puppies
- Tend to be (disappointed) idealists. You’re so easy to see through, and it’s very adorable when you try to hide how soft and squishy you really are
- Definitely have walls, high walls, strong walls. But so do INTJs. Walls make sense to both of us.
- Can get into paralyzing overthinking loops, that to be honest are unpleasant to behold
- Terrible at maintaining friendships, or maintaining any human relationships for that matter. You’re great at maintaining your tools and tech though. INTJs are not much better, so no judgment. But yeah, we could both improve on that front.
- Can be extremely indecisive and lacking in confidence in your decisions, in a way that an INTJ never would be. (Then again, when an INTJ makes a mistake, it’s epic and terrible to behold.)
- Can be overwhelming in your enthusiasms (but not to INTJs who are similarly intense), very childlike, effusive and open (almost dangerously open from the POV of an INTJ, but we love it), endlessly engaged and dazzled by all the things you play with in your imaginations
- Sensitive and fragile but incredibly resilient at the same time, very stoic and practical when push comes to shove (though “practical” is not your go-to state).
TLDR: You’re awesome, and INTJs love your tribe. You’re smart and curious, and hilarious, always up for a laugh at the absurdity of it all.
Edited to add: Wrote another fun (for me) post about INTPs:
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How would an INTP describe the other 15 types?
ENTJ- domineering and want to solve everything before it happens. My father sheltered me from all mistakes which I hated. Learned to cooperate with him though and appreciate how intelligent and motivated he is. Somehow able to pull anything off no matter the odds. Acknowledges my creativity.
INTJ- come off as smart asses and cold, but if put together in a group will gravitate towards each other. Haven’t met too many or have any friends of em, but they’re cool to work with.
ENTP- lol great trouble makers. They’re like the ding dong ditch playing physicists. Always had a good banter, bounced ideas off each other and played devils advocate to devils advocate. Love em, plus the ones I met were the most attractive ppl I’ve met. Wouldn’t mind dating. I don’t say that often.
INTP- chill, we can identify each other, no pressure from them since we the same. Silent acknowledgement. Think the same, react the same, we vibe. Some are cinnamon buns and others- the attractive to me kind- are park ranger types independent and quirky hikers. 10/10 would recommend.
ENFJ- very out there imo. Creepy how they know what to do and do it with a smile on their face the whole time. And somehow leaves flowers everywhere. It’s like they knew the situation before I made one and tried to fix it before it happened. Creepy
INFJ- haha somehow we keep drawing each other. They also have the creepy mind reading ability. My emotions are freakishly known to them before I knew I was feeling an emotion. Love em though, even when they get depressy. Can laugh by just looking at each other, just the bestest of friends. Love em as mentors too. I need to call my INFJ mentor more. They get lonely
ENFP- high energy, waaaay too high key, feels like they’re pushing happiness onto you. Doesn’t know when to leave an introvert alone, please I don’t want to come up front and sing with you. Not good friends. I get spooked before anything happens.
INFP- l like em. Very smart in an odd way, though able to understand me if put in laymen's terms. Like to adventure with them, and talk for hours. We tend to be very close once friends to the point that people question our sexuality. I love em just not that way- the ones I knew were girls. Tend to draw out what little emotional expression I have.
ESTP- only met one or two cause I stayed out of trouble. Classic wild child from what they told me, though only with in reason for their family I guess. We vibe really well in work setting. They usually stay quiet enough for me to start to convo and as long as I don’t push existential crises on them they’re cool to share info with. The ones I know love Joe Rogan lol- especially the hard core military, drug, or supernatural episodes he’s done.
ISTP- geez they be sus when you meet em. We’re both pretty chill quiet types. Only until they get comfy and you have a shared experience do they open up. We have similar sentiments and as long as you’re interested in their pov they tell you anything. They have a mischivous glean to them I appreciate. Love their chaotic energy when hyped. Little tricksters/henchmen if with an ENTP. God help us all.
ESTJ- Don’t like em. At all. Micromanaged, always negative, and wanting to fix problems only they see. Had teachers and managers like them. Hated it. Will NOT recommend. If spotted I will run for the hills. This is why I avoid most social interaction. I also don’t understand why they don’t believe me? I’ve run simulations of your plans and they don’t work with our data, stop beating a dead horse you ignant. And stop trying to manipulate me. Ik what you’re doing, you are not subtle.
ISTJ- Also not a fan. Don’t do enough research before dragging me into their games. Too rigid and conformist, unable to get outside of what they think they’re supposed to do. Will silently micro manage you and hate any excuses. Do not explain yourself just say sorry and that you’ll do better or ask them for advice. That’s the only way to escape. Then run for the hills.
ESFP- will always put on a show, must be center of attention. I like them a little in small doses during recreational activities like dance class or pottery etc. Way too happy and bubbly and too sweet. Like to play up a bit of sexiness in their interactions with their partners, very open in that regard. They pass
ISFP- Ditzy, creative bastards and I love em. We are great for adventuring, and also tend to appear as a couple when we’re not. Very kind and loving. Family oriented and tend to be the ones to get whipped in relationships and forget they have friends. Do not be pushy with them they don’t like it. Let them be and you have an adventure pal for life- if their single.
ESFJ- Chatty Kathy, like to snoop. Like to be down with the times or tend to be the trendy parents wanting to vibe with their kids. Playful, fun, but too out there for me. The opposite stack as me, they are very emotional, too emotional. Also can be extremely manipulative and drip honey when filled with vinegar. Only use is getting the lay of the land in terms of relationships and people at work or the neighborhood. Better keep those blinds shut and that mouth closed unless you wanna be apart of their gossip network as well.
ISFJ- I do like this type though a relationship is hard to maintain. Usually have many friends and can be the cinnamon roll of the group But please don’t step all over them cause they do bite, a lil. We vibe nicely, and they help me to be more nurturing. I like to tease them too. Wish I could maintain our relationship better but it’s like our paths graze each other and never intersect. Love em all the same those lowkey spicy honey buns.
Some types I’ve only met a couple times and others more than that so these are based on real people I’ve met. Cheers ?